Is Death Permanent?
What Does the Bible Say?
What is going to happen to us when we die? How do we find out? The Bible tells us the truth that we need to know about death. The Bible also warns us of danger. There is imminent danger for those who do not know the truth about death. What is it? Some people believe that dead people come back to haunt their old house or even people. They believe that the dead can even talk to us. But did you know that the Bible specifically warns us not to try to communicate with dead people? What is the danger?
The purpose of this study is to answer these questions from the Bible.
Bible Promises Speak of Our Victory over Death
These Bible promises have meant a lot to me, especially since the time I lost both my mother and sister, and now I have lost my father. It is my wish that you might also want to delight in the joys of God's promises.
I love this first verse. There is a promise in this text that is all encompassing and I do believe that it relates to our topic of death.
- And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Romans 8:28
Death is certainly one of the most serious and troubling problems we have in life. We will all face it eventually. But as I look to the Bible for answers I find that Jesus specifically came to talk about our future and the kingdom of God. That means this promise really does include everything! Jesus is the answer to all our problems!
So, the promise that "all things work together for good to them that love God" means that our death does not take God by surprise. He has something planned for us that is yet to occur. Actually, God Himself is looking for the day when He will come to take us home with Him.
Let's now look at some of the other promises that relate to death.
- Weeping may endure for a night, But joy comes in the morning. Psalm 30:5 (last part)
- . . . "Death is swallowed up in victory.
- O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?"
- The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.
- But thanks be to God who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:54-57
- I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that Day. 2 Timothy 1:12 (last part).
- Casting all your care upon Him; for He cares for you. 1 Peter 5:7
- As a father pities his children, So the LORD pities those who fear Him. Psalms 103:13
- I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. Hebrews 13:5 (last part)
- Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Psalms 23:4.
- But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. Job 23:10.
- I will not leave you orphans: I will come to you. John 14:18.
- As one whom his mother comforts, So I will comfort you; And you shall be comforted. Isaiah 66:13 (first part).
- For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him. 2 Chronicles 16:9 (first part).
- The angel of the LORD encamps all around those who fear Him, And delivers them.
- Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good; Blessed is the man who trusts in Him! Psalms 34:7-8.
Many of these promises actually refer to when Jesus comes again. When Jesus comes all wrongs will be righted and He will speedily release all His people from the grave. Also look at my page concerning the second coming of Christ. In the descriptions of Christ's final coming are some of the most powerful promises found in the Bible!
Now, let us see what the Bible says will happen to us when we die:
Jesus speaks of death as sleep
- These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
- Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
- Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
- Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. John 11:11-14.
- And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, in order that you may believe. But let us go to him.
- Then Thomas (he being called Twin) said to his fellow disciples, Let us also go, that we may die with Him. John 11:15-16.
- Then Martha said to Jesus, Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.
- But I know that even now, whatever You will ask of God, God will give You.
- Jesus said to her, Your brother shall rise again.
- Martha said to Him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
- Jesus said to her, I am the Resurrection and the Life! He who believes in Me, though he die, yet he shall live.
- And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?
- She said to Him, Yes, Lord, I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who has come into the world. John 11:21-27.
- And when Jesus came into the ruler's house and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise,
- He said to them, Go back, for the little girl is not dead, but sleeps. And they laughed Him to scorn.
- But when the people were put out, He went in and took her by the hand, and the little girl arose.
- And this report went out into all that land. Matthew 9:23-26.
The people had seen Jesus heal people. When someone was sick, Jesus is the one whom they thought to call for help. But to have Jesus raise someone from the dead was not thought of yet. They did not even think to ask.
- Then when Mary had come where Jesus was, seeing Him, Mary fell down at His feet, saying to Him, Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. John 11:32.
- And He said, Where have you laid him? They said to Him, Lord, come and see.
- Jesus wept.
- Then the Jews said, Behold how He loved him!
- And some of them said, Was not this Man who opened the eyes of the blind able also to cause that even this one should not have died?
- Then Jesus, groaning in Himself again, came to the tomb. And it was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.
- Jesus said, Take away the stone. Martha, the sister of him who died, said to Him, Lord, by this time he stinks. For it is the fourth day.
- Jesus answered her, Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the glory of God?
- Then they took away the stone where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.
- And I know that You hear Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said it, so that they may believe that You have sent Me.
- And saying these things, He cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, Here! Outside! (Lazarus, come forth!)
- And he who had died came out, bound hand and foot with sheets, and his face was bound with a cloth. Jesus said to them, Untie him and let him go! John 11:34-44. MKJV
- Jesus said to her, I am the Resurrection and the Life! He who believes in Me, though he die, yet he shall live.
- And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this? John 11:25-26.
Look at Paul's assurance to the Christians in Thessalonica. He also describes the dead as sleeping, and that they will rise again!
- But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
- For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14.
- Thou (Moses) shall sleep with thy fathers. Deuteronomy 31:16.
Thou (David) shalt sleep with thy fathers. 2 Samuel 7:12.
The king (David) shall sleep with his fathers. 1 Kings 1:21.
So David slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 2:10.
David slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 11:21.
He (Jeroboam) slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 14:20.
Rehoboam slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 14:31.
Abijam slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 15:8.
Asa slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 15:24.
Baasha slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 16:6.
Omri slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 16:28.
Ahab slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 22:40.
Jehosaphat slept with his fathers. 1 Kings 22:50.
Joram slept with his fathers. 2 Kings 8:24
Jehu slept with his fathers. 2 Kings 10:35.
Jehoahaz slept with his fathers. 2 Kings 13:9.
I should have slept. Job 3:13.
Now shall I sleep. Job 7:21.
They have slept their sleep. Psalm 76:5.
And sleep a perpetual sleep. Jeremiah 51:39.
Them that sleep in the dust. Daniel 12:2.
Is not dead, but sleepeth. Matthew 9:24.
Lazarus sleepeth. John 11:11.
Some are fallen asleep. 1 Corinthians 15:6.
Concerning them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:13.
Since the fathers fell asleep. 2 Peter 3:4.
- 2 Kings 13:13; 14:16,22,29; 15:7,22,38; 16:20; 20:21; 21:18; 24:6;
2 Chronicles 9:31; 12:16; 14:1; 16:13; 21:1; 26:2,23; 27:9; 28:27
2 Chronicles 32:33; 33:20; Job 14:12; Psalm 13:3; 76:6; 90:5
Jeremiah 51:57; Matthew 27:52; Mark 5:39; Luke 8:52; Acts 7:60
Acts 13:36; 1 Corinthians 11:30; 15:18,20; 1 Thessalonians 4:14,15.
Man Became a Living Soul
- And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7.
- 1) He formed man from the dust (dirt or clay) of the ground.
2) He breathed into the form of dust the breath of life.
A soul is a person. Below we see Exodus 1:5 in two versions that are placed side-by-side. In the King James Version (KJV) we have "seventy souls" but in the New King James Version (NKJV) we have "seventy persons". It can be translated either way:
5. And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already. Exodus 1:5 KJV | 5. All those who were descendants of Jacob were seventy persons (for Joseph was in Egypt already). Exodus 1:5 NKJV |
- Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. Acts 2:41 NKJV
- who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 1 Peter 3:20 NKJV
Now, the fact that we are made of dust and have the breath of life is mentioned by a variety of Bible writers. Here are just a few quotes:
- But now, O LORD, You are our Father; We are the clay, and You our potter; And all we are the work of Your hand. Isaiah 64:8
- As a father pities his children, So the LORD pities those who fear Him.
- For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust. Psalms 103:13-14.
- The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
Now, what happens when we die?
When the Soul Dies, The Breath Returns to God and the Dust Returns to the Ground.
- Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
Here is another text that has the same two parts (dust and the breath of life) come apart when we die. Except now the translators have actually called it the breath.
- Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. Psalms 104:29.
So we see the same two parts come apart as we saw come together when man became a living soul. In the next verse the consequences of sin is described:
- In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Genesis 3:19
So, when we die, our body returns back to dust and the spirit or breath of life returns to God.
Now, what is it that returns to God? We have two possibilities:
- 1) If man becomes a living soul when we are born or created, then when we die, if we cease from being a living soul; It would make sense that we would stop knowing anything when we die. We would have no thoughts from that point on.
2) On the other hand, if our soul goes back to heaven when we die as a disembodied being, it would make sense that we would continue to think and to know that we exist. Our thoughts would continue.
The Dead do not Know Anything
- For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
- Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6,10.
- His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Psalms 146:4.
This agrees with what we saw before. Adam became a living person. He became a living soul. So now, when we die, we cease from being a living person. We cease from being a living soul. We no longer exist because our thoughts perish.
This also agrees with Jesus' description of death. He called it sleep as we saw earlier.
There is more.
- The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
- But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD. Psalms 115:17-18.
- Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake.
- For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? Psalms 6:4-5.
- Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.
- For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth.
- The living, the living, he shall praise thee, as I do this day: the father to the children shall make known thy truth. Job 38:17-19.
- Who shall declare his way to his face? And who shall repay him what he hath done?
- Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb. Job 21:31-32.
- As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more.
- He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.
- Therefore I will not refrain my mouth; I will speak in the anguish of my spirit; I will complain in the bitterness of my soul. Job 7:9-11
However, as we will see in the next few verses that there is indeed a promise of a bright future for God's people who descend into the sleep of the grave.
The sleeping dead will one day rise again!
- So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
- O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! Job 14:12-13
- "At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.
- And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:1-2.
- Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
- Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
- For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:19-21
- But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
- For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
- For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-15.
- For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
- Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.
We can also see that those who are still alive, when Jesus comes, will also be caught up together with those who have died and are now risen. Thus, from that time on, we will always be with the Lord!
Let's look at this. We can see that the dead in Christ are sleeping until Jesus actually descends from heaven. That means they have been sleeping in the grave until that time. It is then that they are raised up to ever be with the Lord. So, it is then that Jesus brings those who have died with Him to heaven. Jesus also takes those who are yet alive to heaven as well.
Jesus also spoke of this time. He also says that the dead will rise up at the last day.
- This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
- And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:39-40.
- Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
- In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
- For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
- So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, death is swallowed up in victory.
- O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
- The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.
- But thanks be to God who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:51-57.
Then Paul shifts his attention to those who have died: When the last trumpet sounds, all the dead who died in Christ will be raised with perfect bodies that are not damaged by sin. At this point they cry out "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" The wonder of living again and with perfect bodies overwhelms them; And they give thanks to God who gave them the victory through Jesus Christ!
So, at the last trumpet, the dead will be raised with totally new bodies (the living will also be changed having totally new bodies). At that time, there will be no more death nor sickness nor aging!
In our sinful world, we are all getting old and we can see it in our bodies. We have wrinkles and cracked skin. We might even have missing parts. Maybe a leg had to be amputated. We might have lost our sight or our hearing has been greatly affected or lost all together. As we get even older we get additional spots and our skin no longer is smooth, but rather it starts to become translucent and hangs from our bones. We really start to look ugly!
Can you imagine what the righteous might look like in their new bodies. Old people will be young. Today, in our sinful world, even teenagers and people in their 20s, yes they look pretty good to us; However, even at their young age, their skin no longer looks like it did when they were babies. Yes, our skin is already showing its age by the time people are 20!
Can you imagine what our new bodies might look like? Adults will have full heads of hear like youths and smooth skin like very young children, yet they will have the form of a fully developed adult. For the first time, we will have bodies without the signs of sin; Without any sign of decay or aging!
- For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
- So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, death is swallowed up in victory.
- O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 1 Corinthians 15:51-55.
In the Bible, man is called mortal, he is NOT called immortal:
- Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? Job 4:17
John also remembers Jesus speaking about this same event:
- For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
- And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
- Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
- And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29.
- And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:2.
- Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
- Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
- For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:19-21
Verse 20 seems to say to the righteous, rest a little while, enter thou into thy chambers (grave), and shut thy doors about thee and hide yourself as it were for a little moment until all this trouble is ended. This could be describing the purpose for death. It allows the righteous to sleep while trouble covers the Earth. After that: Behold, the LORD cometh out of his place. . . so that the dead in Christ can arise!
Hosea also speaks of the redeeming of the righteous from the dead.
- I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. Hosea 13:14.
- But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
- For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
- For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
- But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.
In fact, some people have already been raised from the dead. When Jesus died on the cross, a group of people rose out of their graves.
- Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
- And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
- And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
- And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:50-53.
John 3:16 is perhaps the most famous verse in the Bible.
- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16.
At various times, Jesus has spoken about those who will be raised in the resurrection.
- And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
- But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
- Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Luke 20:34-36.
The Two Resurrections
- Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
- And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29.
In Revelation, we have additional information, the wicked are resurrected 1000 years after the righteous are resurrected.
- And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
- But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
- Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:4-6.
We see that the rest of the dead, the wicked dead, do not live again until after the thousand years are ended. That must be the second resurrection, the resurrection of damnation which occurs a thousand years after the righteous are raised.
Since the wicked experience the second death, it must mean that they will either die or be killed. However the righteous will never again experience death. Those who are raised in the first resurrection of the righteous, the second death has no power!
- He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelation 2:11.
- But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8.
Remember that in one of the most beloved text of the Bible, John 3:16, people will either perish (the second death of the wicked) or they will have everlasting life (the righteous who have overcome).
- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16.
- And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
- And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
- And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
- And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:7-10.
Remember, the righteous have already been raised in the first resurrection. That means they cannot be hurt by the second death, which means they will not die! They are free from sin forever because they have overcome! In fact, they have been judging the wicked for the last 1000 years. Would God allow them to fail after all that?
No, we must remember that the wicked are raised after the 1000 years. This is the same time that Satan is loosed out of his prison.
- But the rest of the dead [the wicked] lived not again until the thousand years were finished. . . . . Revelation 20:5.
- And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Revelation 20:7.
- And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
- And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
- And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
- And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:7-10.
The wicked are so numerous that they number as the sand of the sea. But it is then that they are destroyed. in verse 9 it says the fire devoured them.
Some seem to think that Satan is in charge of Hell. However, in this text, we see that both Satan and his prophet, both are also thrown into the fire to be destroyed. Satan can not be in charge of Hell if he himself is destroyed in Hell.
Now, in verse 10, The fire is said to torment the wicked day and night for ever and ever. However this is a translation problem. believe it or not, "forever and ever" can be translated more than one way. If you are interested, I have a special web page that deals with this issue: What is meant by for ever and ever in the Bible?
Also, the Bible is very clear that the wicked do NOT suffer for ever and ever and ever. In the Bible we repeatedly see that the wicked are destroyed. They will perish, they will be burned up until they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, they will be no more, they will cease to exist, etc. to see the Biblical evidence click on this link: Hell Fire, Does it last forever?
The righteous who are in the New Jerusalem when the wicked are destroyed will at that time then see the world made new. To see what happens more specifically to both the righteous and the wicked at the end, click on this link: What Happens During the 1000 Years Following Jesus' Second Coming?
Difficult Bible Passages About Death Explained.
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I agree with you. If we lost our memories, what would be the point of seeing your old friends again if you didn't even know who they are!
Yes! We get back all of our memories. Remember, Jesus called death a sleep. Then when Jesus comes, He wakes us up again. We don't lose our memories every time we go to sleep and that is the connotation that Jesus gives us. If death is pictured as just sleeping, then the idea is that when He wakes us up, it will be as if we are just waking up from a sleep. We will have our memories again.
- Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
- In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
- For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
- So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, death is swallowed up in victory.
- O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
- The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.
- But thanks be to God who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:51-57.
Here is an important point! When it says that we lose our memories, what it means is that we don't know what is happening when we are actually dead. When we are asleep in death, our memory is lost because there is no working brain at that point. Both the body and brain are decayed and are no longer functional! But, when Jesus raises us up, we will have new bodies with brains that are able to think again. We will also be given our original memories back.
I don't know how God will do it, but He has made promises to us that only He can fulfill.
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Lets look at that verse in the Bible:
- And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
- And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke 23:42-43.
- The thief did not ask to go that day. He had his theology straight, and asked to be remembered when Jesus comes in His kingdom.
- Jesus did not go that day. Three days later, after Jesus rose from the dead, He told Mary not to touch Him, for He had not ascended to the Father. Actually, the New King James version says it better: Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'" John 20:17. So Jesus never went to Heaven when He was dead. He plainly said to Mary that He had not yet seen the Father. Notice also that Jesus says He is ascending to His Father. Jesus did not say that He had just come back from Heaven nor did He say that He had ascended already (past tense). It should be clear that Jesus never went anywhere. He was in the grave sleeping the sleep of the dead.
- The thief could not have gone that day because he did not die that day! John 19:30-34 tells how the thieves legs were broken as the Sabbath began. This was because the Jews did not want crosses up on the Sabbath, so they would take them down and break the legs of those on the cross to hasten death and prevent escape. The thieves lived on after Jesus died. So, The thief could not be with Jesus in paradise on that day because the thief did not die that day.
If we change the punctuation so that it agrees with all the other Bible verses, it would read: "Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise." Jesus was emphasizing the fact that He was saying it now, today. In spite of the fact that the situation seems hopeless, after all, they were being killed in the worst possible way. Yet, in spite of the fact that Jesus seemed powerless to do anything for anybody; He told the thief, truly, I say to you today, you will be with Me in Paradise.
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I am not sure how God puts us back together. What is it that God gave us when we were given the breath of life? Do we really know what goes back to God when we die? God must have something of us so He can put us back together again with completely new immortal bodies that will never grow old. The Bible obviously does not go into specifics because we probably would not be able to understand anyway. We are only given simple concepts.
What ever it is that goes back to God, it obviously is not consciousness. It is not a disembodied soul; Because, we are told that the dead do not know anything. We are told that our thoughts perish.
- For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
- Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6.
- And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7.
- Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
- His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Psalms 146:4.
- All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;
- My lips shall not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit. Job 27:3-4
- For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
- who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself. Philippians 3:20-21
- Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--
- in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
- For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
- So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."
- "O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?"
- The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.
- But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:51-57.
In the Bible we see that the soul who sins shall die:
- Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die." Ezekiel 18:4
- He who keeps the commandment keeps his soul, But he who is careless of his ways will die. Proverbs 19:16
- For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
- For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
- For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. Matthew 16:25-27
Jesus said that both the body and the soul could be destroyed in hell.
- And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28
However, Immortality is an attribute of Divinity. Only God is naturally immortal:
- which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
- who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. 1 Timothy 6:15-16
- Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die." Genesis 3:4.
- For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23.
- eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; Romans 2:7.
- For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
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Let's read the text and a few other verses:
- It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:
- I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven.
- And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows--
- how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
- Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities.
- For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool; for I will speak the truth. But I refrain, lest anyone should think of me above what he sees me to be or hears from me.
- And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 2 Corinthians 12:1-7
Paul was concerned that no one should think he was glorying or boasting about his visions. For this reason, he ascribed the experience to a man he knew.
Paul's soul did not leave his body, in spite of claims to the contrary. He was not puzzled over whether he had died or not. He was merely uncertain as to whether he dreamt it or if he went there in person, in real life.
Although it seemed that he was bodily taken to heaven, yet he felt it possible that he was taken there only in a dream or vision. He confessed to complete ignorance as to what actually happened.
The physical impressions seemed as though he were "out of the body," in a way of speaking. In the same way, Paul wrote to the Colossian church, "For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit." Colossians 2:5. No one interprets this to mean that some immortal soul left Paul's body to be with his friends. He was only saying he was thinking of them.
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In the text below, we can see that in the first four verses, Paul is contrasting the mortal state that we find ourselves in with immortal life in heaven.
- Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.
- Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling,
- because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked.
- For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.
- Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
- Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.
- We live by faith, not by sight.
- We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
- So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.
- For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due to him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
- Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade men. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience. 2 Corinthians 5:1-11 NIV
In Verse 5 Paul says that we were made for the very purpose of having immortality and we have been given the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of what is to come.
In verse 6 and 7 we are told that we live by faith, not by sight because we are in this mortal body and we cannot see God directly. This is what we all experience.
Verse 8 and 9 is what gives problems. What does Paul mean by saying we would be prefer to be away from the body and be at home with the Lord? Having no body does not match any of the three conditions described in verses 1-4 (1. mortality-the earthly tent, 2. death-being naked, 3. immortality-clothed with our heavenly dwelling).
This could be a reference to visions and dreams as Paul does in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. He would rather be with God in vision rather than be in his mortal body on earth. See the discussion above.
In the first letter to the Corinthians, Paul had already told them WHEN we would all receive immortality,
- Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
- In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
- For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
- So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1 Corinthians 15:51-54.
- For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
- I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
- Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. 2 Timothy 4:6-8.
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All through the Bible, it talks about death as a sleep. Jesus Himself, when He heard of Lazarus's death, mentioned that he fell asleep.
- These things He said, and after that He said to them, "Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up."
- Then His disciples said, "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well."
- However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
- Then Jesus said to them plainly, "Lazarus is dead". John 11:11-14. NIV
There is another point that the story does not fit with the rest of the Bible (if we take a literal point of view of the story). At the second coming of Jesus, He will sound the trumpet, and all the dead will rise.
- According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
- For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
- After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord for ever.
- Therefore encourage each other with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18
Lets look at the Rich Man and Lazarus story itself.
- There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day.
- But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate,
- desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
- So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
- And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
- Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.'
- But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
- And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'
- Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
- for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
- Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'
- And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
- But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' Luke 16:19-31.
Here are 4 reasons why it could not possibly be literalistic:
- The beggar died and was taken by the angels to Abraham's bosom. No one believes that Abraham's literal bosom is the abode of the righteous dead. It is a figurative or parabolic expression. By the way, the angels will gather the saints, but according to Matthew 24:31, this will take place at the coming of Jesus, not at a person's death.
- Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
- And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:30-31.
- Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
- Heaven and hell were separated by a gulf, and yet the persons in each could converse with each other. There are probably few individuals in the world who believe that this will be literally true of the saved and the lost (Luke 16:26).
- The rich man was in hell with a body. He had eyes, a tongue, etc. (Luke 16:24). How did his body get into hellfire instead of into the grave? I know of no one who teaches that the bodies of the wicked go into hell as soon as they die. This story could not be literal.
- The request for Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and come through the flames to cool the rich man's tongue is obviously not literal. How much moisture would be left and how much relief would it give? The whole story is unrealistic and parabolic.
So, what is it like to be dead? and, why doesn't God raise his people up when they die. Some time ago, I answered a girl's question concerning her brother who died quite suddenly. She could not seem to be able to think of her brother as not doing anything at the present time.
I told her that when her brother died in the accident, everything went black. He lost consciousness. The very next second, as far as he knows, he will wake up to see the second coming of Jesus who is coming to get every one of us.
He will be very amazed to know how long he was asleep. It doesn't matter to him because he didn't experience any time. Its as if it never happened. When we experience the sleep of death, time doesn't matter.
Monty, a friend of mine told me this story. He is a native american.
He said that when he was small, their family use to go to their grandparents farm. They would have fun playing with the animals and experiencing all the sights and sounds of a farm. Late in the evening, they would start for home in their car, but the kids would get sleepy on the long drive and soon would be fast asleep in the back of the station wagon.
When they arrived home, their parents would pick up the sleeping children and put them to bed. The next morning the kids would wake up and be surprised that they were in their own bedroom. The last thing they remember is that they were in the car. How did they get in here?
When we die, it is just like what the kids experience when they get really tired. There is no sense of any time.
There is another issue. If we have a brother or sister, mother or father, and they were alive in heaven right now and was able to see you and your family and see how you are suffering right now, would they be happy. They would be able to see your condition, but not be able to help you like they did before.
It reminds me of people who are tortured by seeing their children or wives tortured. I think God knew what He was doing when He chose to do what He did. He loves us very much and is planning to take us to live with Him as family!
When we die, there is no concept of time. So the very next thing we see is when we wake up to see Jesus.
- Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
- Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
- For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:19-21
- For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
- After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord for ever. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Now, what happens to the wicked dead. They sleep just like the righteous, except they will rise up in a different resurrection.
- Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
- And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29.
See the page on Hell (does it last forever). Also, for additional information on the wicked dead Click to see: Are the wicked tormented day and night for ever and ever?
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You should realize that the spirit that looked and sounded like Samuel, was not Samuel at all. But it was probably Satan.
Look what is said about Manasseh:
- And he did evil in the sight of the LORD, according to the abominations of the nations whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel. 2 Kings 21:2
- Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger. 2 Kings 21:6
- 'Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Leviticus 19:31
- 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. Leviticus 20:6
- 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.'" Leviticus 20:27
- "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
- "or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
- "For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. Deuteronomy 18:10-12
- "You shall not permit a sorceress to live. Exodus 22:18
- Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling.
- This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation."
- And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour. Acts 16:16-18
Now lets look at the story itself. in 1 Samuel 28: 3 we see that in the past, Saul himself had killed all the mediums: And Saul had put the mediums and the spiritists out of the land.
We also see that Saul has now done so many things against God that God will no longer talk to him: And when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams or by Urim or by the prophets. 1 Samuel 28:6
So Saul went to a medium instead of going to God. We find in 1 Chronicles that one of the reasons why God killed Saul is that he went to a medium for guidance. He actually went to Satan for help!
- So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he had committed against the LORD, because he did not keep the word of the LORD, and also because he consulted a medium for guidance.
- But he did not inquire of the LORD; therefore He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse. 1 Chronicles 10:13-14.
- Samuel was supposedly "brought up." Other expressions used in this passage include: "ascending out of the earth," "coming up," and "bring . . up." (verses 13-15). Is this where the righteous dead are, down in the earth? Not according to those who believe in the immortal soul.
- Samuel is described as an old man covered with a mantle. Is this the way immortal souls appear? Are they old or are they made new?
- Where did the soul get the body? They're supposed to be disembodied. Was there a resurrection? Did God obey the call of the witch and raise up Samuel? If she did not then can Satan raise the dead?
- The apparition of Samuel told Saul, "Tomorrow you and your sons will be with me." (1 Samuel 28:19) Saul committed suicide on the battlefield the next day. Where did Samuel dwell? Do the wicked and righteous dead dwell together in the same place?
It should also be clear that the Bible never says that Saul saw the real Samuel. He received his information secondhand from the witch, and only concluded that it was Samuel. The truth is that the devil deceived both the witch and Saul. It was nothing more than a devil-generated seance. It is no wonder that God has killed those who have done this wicked act in the past.
Now, who was it that talked to Jesus:
- Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves;
- and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light.
- And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. Matthew 17:1-3.
There are certain people who God took to Heaven in a special way. These people never experienced death at all. Look at the following verses showing the family history of Adam:
- So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died.
- So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years; and he died.
- So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years; and he died.
- So all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years; and he died.
- So all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred and ninety-five years; and he died.
- So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years; and he died.
- So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
- And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. Genesis 5:5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23-24
- By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, "and was not found, because God had taken him"; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Hebrews 11:5.
- Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
- And Elisha saw it, and he cried out, "My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and its horsemen!" So he saw him no more. And he took hold of his own clothes and tore them into two pieces. 2 Kings 2:11-12.
Now, what about Moses? It is true that Moses died. He died on Mount Nebo, God buried Moses Himself:
- So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
- And He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth Peor; but no one knows his grave to this day. Deuteronomy 34: 5-6.
- Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Jude 9.
- For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Thessalonians 4:16
So, Saul did not talk to Samuel at all. He talked to some evil spirit, most likely Satan Himself. On the other hand, Jesus, when He was Transfigured on the mount, He actually talked to Moses and Elijah. They were not dead, one was translated without seeing death and the other experienced a special resurrection. So both Moses and Elijah are alive!
Both of these stories agree with the rest of the Bible which says that the dead are sleeping until Jesus comes to wake them up.
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You ask a very hard question. One that only God can answer. I believe as you do that our actions (works) will show if we believe or not. Also, I am reminded of the wide and narrow path:
the child shall die
- "Enter in by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter in by it.
- How narrow is the gate, and restricted is the way that leads to life! Few are those who find it. Matthew 7:13-14 WEB.
However, we must remember the love of God. There are just a lot of people who see God as an angry judge who is looking for ways to destroy us by noting our sins. But it is really Satan who is trying to destroy us and not God.
We can look to the Bible to see what God is really like. It is amazing to me that Jesus found more faith outside the Jewish people then in. A roman centurion came and pleaded for his servant's life. He did not even want Jesus to come to his house but to just say the word and he knew that it would be done.
- When Jesus heard it, he marveled, and said to those who followed, "Most certainly I tell you, I haven't found so great a faith, not even in Israel.
- I tell you that many will come from the east and the west, and will sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven
- but the children of the Kingdom will be thrown out into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 8:10-12 WEB Bible
- The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, Acts 17:30 WEB
When Jesus spoke to the woman of Samaria, He spoke of the fact that they were worshiping one who they did not know.
- The woman said to him, "Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet.
- Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship."
- Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe me, the hour comes, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, will you worship the Father
- You worship that which you don't know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
- But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers. John 4:19-23 WEB Bible
- As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
- that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
- For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
- For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. John 3:14-17 WEB, (begotten) KJV
- For the eyes of the LORD run back and forth throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. 2 Chronicles 16:9 (first part) WEB, (the LORD) KJV
When Jesus was being confronted by the leaders (pharisees and saducies) Jesus had to call them snakes and vipers because they were only lusting for power etc. and the things of Heaven have been lost to them.
But Jesus cried over them:
- "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I would have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not!
- Behold, your house is left to you desolate. Matthew 23:37-38 WEB Bible
- The LORD takes pleasure in those who fear him, in those who hope in his loving kindness. Psalms 147:11 WEB, "The LORD" KJV
Finally, there is yet another verse that I am trying to find for you. I have used it before in a letter but now I can not find it. I wish I was more organized! Essentially, the verse says that God considers the place or the country where they come from in judging them. I don't have the words right because I can't find it. I did find this one:
- The LORD will count, when he writes up the peoples, "This one was born there." Psalms 87:6. WEB, "The Lord" KJV
We must remember that God does not think as we think. We tend to think in absolutes. We think in terms of: "We have sinned".
How can God save us? I think that God judges the direction of our life. Are we coming toward Him or are we moving away from Him? Has the boy thought about God? Did he decide for God, only to stumble? These are questions we probably cannot answer ourselves.
Also there is another text that I am trying to find for you. I think that Paul says it. It basically says that there are some people who have followed God but they did not know it. In other words, they served God in ignorance. The Holy Spirit has spoken in their hearts and they have followed that voice. But they really don't know who they are following.
We often think of our country as being a Christian nation. However, in many cases, people just don't know what God is really like and they don't really know how to get that information either. God notices all this. He notices the confusion in our lives and even our age.
I am sorry that I really can't answer your question about your son's friend. However, I do know that if there is a way that God can save him He surely will!
Here is another way to look at things. There are so many things in this world that are unfair. Sure enough, survival of the fittest does seem to reign supreme on this earth. Existence on this earth is sometimes pure survival. Some people try to get ahead in this world and they don't seem to have a chance. Certainly, not knowing who Jesus is, seems like really bad luck! But things are not always the way them seem. Look at the next story and see what you think.
A week ago, or so, I read the story on the judgment on the house of Jeroboam, which is found in I Kings 14. Jeroboam, the king of Israel, was a wicked king and he had a son.
What happened is that the son of Jeroboam became sick. Jeroboam told his wife to disguise herself and go to Ahijah the prophet to ask him what will become of his son. There were other elements to the disguise, but of course, God told His prophet what was happening. When she came, he said: come in wife of Jeroboam, why do you pretend to be another person? Well, the prophet told her that because king Jeroboam, whom God had placed over Israel, did not follow God but acted wickedly, this king was extremely wicked; that disaster will strike his family. Every male member will see death.
Now the point that I want to make is this: This son who became sick, that originally caused Jeroboam's wife to see the prophet, was the only thing in Jeroboam's family that was good. So because this son was good, he was going to be the only one who would die a natural death. All the other members were going to have violent deaths.
This is what is said in 1 Kings 14:12-13.
- Arise therefore, go to your own house. When your feet enter the city, the child shall die.
- And all Israel shall mourn for him and bury him, for he is the only one of Jeroboam who shall come to the grave, because in him there is found something good toward the LORD God of Israel in the house of Jeroboam.
So here is a story of a son who had the wrong father. It looks like he had the worst of luck and that he would never have a chance of doing anything ever again. However, if we look at this story from a different perspective, we find that it is the opposite of our original view of the story. That boy was allowed to die only after he had chosen to follow God. He had already exercised his free will to choose God. Now, the next moment that he will be aware of, when Jesus comes to collect His righteous people and take them to heaven, this boy will be among them. He has exercised his free will and God will reward that choice!
There are also places in the Bible where it says that God will cause some righteous people to have short lives. Now that can be seen as a bad thing, because nobody really wants to die. However, this is actually a good thing.
The first two verses are scripture examples showing that when the righteous die, God is being merciful to them, separating them from the evil of this world. They will be brought up again when all the evil is past.
- Help, LORD, for the godly man ceases For the faithful disappear from among the sons of men. Psalm 12:1
- The righteous perishes, And no man takes it to heart; Merciful men are taken away, While no one considers That the righteous is taken away from evil.
- He shall enter into peace; They shall rest in their beds, Each one walking in his uprightness. Isaiah 57:1-2
Life on this world is very short, usually under a hundred years. However, once this war is over between Jesus and Satan, all those who have chosen God will no longer be tempted and attacked by Satan, and they will be able to explore the whole universe for googles of years, and that is only the beginning ( 1 google is 1 x 10100 or 1 with a hundred zeros after it.)
Now, what happens to those who become discouraged? I remember that John the Baptist was discouraged and later he lost his head (he was killed). But I believe that He will be saved in spite of his discouragement.
Here is a verse showing that God treats a good man or a righteous man differently from the wicked when they fall. If a wicked man who is a evildoer, falls; God will cut them off. They will be no more. But we know that the meek will inherit the earth. If a good man falls for some reason, God will hold them up! He will not utterly cast them down!
- The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD, And He delights in his way.
- Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; For the LORD upholds him with His hand. Psalm 37:23-24
I also believe that there are people who have served God with all the knowledge that they had. Others might have served God totally out of ignorance. God, in the end, will turn the tables and make things fair.
Conclusions
Why is it important to know that the dead sleep?
- Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day.
- For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
- Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Acts 2:29,34-35.
Many people believe that we live as spirits, ghosts, or angels after we die. It may seem to be a harmless error; However, this misunderstanding can lead to a very dangerous situation.
If people who die are actually in the grave not knowing anything as the Bible describes, then who is it that people see and talk to when they are faced with some dead relative coming back to warn them of some danger or supposedly to comfort?
I have a friend who has a lot of strange things happen in their home. He says he talks to his dead grandmother. She appears in the sky to him and talks to him. Also, sometimes, the telephone will ring and when one of the boys pick it up, its their dead uncle on the phone, and they recognize his voice!
Since dead people cannot visit people, some other impostor must be masquerading as some dead relative or friend. Who could it be?
I believe that Satan and his evil angels are doing these things, and they get access to these people because they think that people continue to think and do things when they die. They do not know that people simply go to sleep when they die, so they don't realize that they are really talking to demons.
In the future, Satan will use this ignorance of what the Bible says to attack people. If people don't realize that dead people can't think or do anything, then they are gullible. They are left wide open to any evil suggestion that the demons might want to tell them.
I believe this is an extremely important subject because ignorance of it, allows Satan to tell people lies about all sorts of things. And the people are not even alerted to the possibility that it may be an evil spirit that they are talking to. Satan only wants to destroy us and this ignorance puts unsuspecting people right in his hands!
Satan and his evil angels are the obvious answer. We already know that they want to deceive the whole world. To learn more of their purpose against us, click on Activities of our Ancestors. This link takes a look at different phenomena occurring today which are demonic in nature. What better way to deceive than to have it come from a dead "friend", or even a UFO?
Another interesting link looks at how Satan has attacked God. How is he trying to win his war against God?
It is the work of Satan to deceive and destroy us. What better way then to give people false information about Heaven, maybe they will say that we don't need to worry about being "good" because everyone is going to heaven.
While it is true that salvation is a gift to anyone who believes, we must realize that the Bible is very clear what true belief does to our life habits and goals. Look at some of the following Bible text.
- "Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
- "And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him." Acts 5:31-32 NKJV.
- "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
- "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
- "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. Revelation 3:19-21 NKJV.
Remember, the Lord truly loves us to the extent that He wants us to live with Him. This is not wishful thinking. He even now is working on our behalf to save us from sin. He is now preparing to take us home with Him. So let's plan to be among the saved. This will be the biggest homecoming that we will ever experience. I am sure that the whole universe of created beings are also looking forward to this event. We must not miss our chance to witness and feel the happiness of those who love the Lord by living with Him!
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